Simple intuitive image uploads

[jrwdev]

I just started using getsimple. It's awesome. I'm a hardcore Wordpress developer and know that there is a need for a really simple cms to fill the gap when my clients need almost nothing. I like the intuitive design and workflow of GetSimple.

One request. When I try to create or edit a page, I have an option to add an image; however there is no way to upload my image right there. I have to exit the page editor and go to the file manager to upload my images. I'm sure there are plugins to fix this, or easy adjustments to the code...but if I have to make adjustments to the core or use plugins to use GetSimple...it's back to WP. Image uploads in-context is one of the most basic forms of functionality that a client would need.

Simple to integrate. Essential to include. Get it done, and I'll be on board with this CMS in a heartbeat.

[yojoe]

One request. When I try to create or edit a page, I have an option to add an image; however there is no way to upload my image right there. I have to exit the page editor and go to the file manager to upload my images.

I'm kind of astonished why hardcore wordpress developer doesn't make use of tabbed browsing, as content editing is supposed to be utilizing such method.
Just click center mouse button on files tab button, manage files in newly opened tab, and add images to the content in 1st tab.
voilla ;]

ps. afaik tinymce has file management functionality, but I don't know if this plugin's author included it: http://get-simple.info/extend/plugin/tinymce/200/

[Connie]

as it happens very often, there is a misunderstanding:
the filemanagement in the image-dialogue is NOT GetSimple, it is part of CKEditor
and the problem with CKeditor is, that the filemanager is not free anymore...

see here: http://ckfinder.com/what-is-CKFinder

if the filemanager were free, for sure it would be worked in in GetSimple's CKEditor's integration

if your clients are willing to pay a license, it will be very simple for you to integrate that filemanager

[ccagle8]

I think the best option would be to integrate our Uploadify instance into the filemanager.php file.

[jrwdev]

I'm kind of astonished why hardcore wordpress developer doesn't make use of tabbed browsing, as content editing is supposed to be utilizing such method.
Just click center mouse button on files tab button, manage files in newly opened tab, and add images to the content in 1st tab.
voilla ;]

ps. afaik tinymce has file management functionality, but I don't know if this plugin's author included it: http://get-simple.info/extend/plugin/tinymce/200/

Without a doubt, this is the easiest solution. But if you've worked in web development for any length of time, you'd know that clients are generally computer idiots. I have several clients who would have no clue how to open another tab, and even if they did, they wouldn't realize they could switch between them and use them both on the same website. It's really a question of ease of use here. If you have to have 2 windows (or tabs) open to do 1 task, you're asking too much of a novice user.

[jrwdev]

as it happens very often, there is a misunderstanding:
the filemanagement in the image-dialogue is NOT GetSimple, it is part of CKEditor
and the problem with CKeditor is, that the filemanager is not free anymore...

see here: http://ckfinder.com/what-is-CKFinder

if the filemanager were free, for sure it would be worked in in GetSimple's CKEditor's integration

if your clients are willing to pay a license, it will be very simple for you to integrate that filemanager

I figured this was the issue... and if that's the case, GetSimple needs to consider a different editor at its core or at least build this functionality themselves.

[jrwdev]

I think the best option would be to integrate our Uploadify instance into the filemanager.php file.

I'm pretty new to GetSimple (like I downloaded it yesterday and spent about 3 hours learning it), so my knowledge of how plugins work is fairly limited. But that's not the point. With a functionality this basic, there should be nothing a developer has to add out of the box to make this work for his/her client. If it's really that simple, this should be core functionality....thus the feature request post.

I want to reiterate that I really like this CMS. It seems simple enough for users to be able to get started in 5 minutes and yet robust enough that it could handle the bulk of small business websites (which is most of the freelance web developer's workload). Great job!

[Connie]

and if that's the case, GetSimple needs to consider a different editor

I am tired of this discussion ;=)
I do not think that this is a "knock out argument" for the editor, if so I wouldn't have spent many years now integrating CKEditor or FCKEditor in many different CMSs or Blogs
please, don't ring the bell so loud ... ;=)

beside this, what you consider a main problem, is not really a problem (from my point of view)

1) you can upload images from the files-rider, by that you also get thumbnails
2) when you write a text, you can easily search the server images from the image-dialogue in the editor
3) also in WP I do not upload the images when writing text, I have to click on an icon (icon or rider ... what is the heck? I am glad there are differences in this world ...) and after that dialogue I have to click on "include in post"

this is the only difference: when you have not already uploaded your images before editing, you have no direct connection from uploading to the edit area

I would be more than glad to have a free filemanager for CKEditor and you can believe me I am searching for that, when I have found one, I will document how to integrate it here, for sure

until that time, you are always free to integrate an older version of FCKEditor in GS, which comes with free filemanager, they are still available for download

[Joshas]

If you're looking for file manager with more features - there's KCFinder (http://kcfinder.sunhater.com/). It integrates with CKEditor and can work as standalone file uploader. But I think it is just too big, to be included with GetSimple by default.

[Connie]

Joshas,

thank you for the tip. Well, as standard integration it might be too big, but I will check how to integrate it in GetSimple and describe it in the wiki

this is an option! Thank you,

Connie

[Joshas]

Here's a few more file managers for testing, both should integrate into CKEditor without problems:
PWD File Browser ( http://www.neele.name/filebrowser/ckeditor.php ) - has additional copy/cut/paste functionality, looks and works more or less like windows explorer.
File Manager - ( http://labs.corefive.com/Projects/FileManager/ ) .

[ccagle8]

i still think that we can easily add Uploadify to filemanager.php in the core. It may take a few trys to get it right - so it may not make it into 3.1, but i will add it to the feature list, because I also see this as an important piece that is missing from the Editor's current functionality.

[Connie]

Chris,

I am experimenting with the suggested filemanagers and in the moment I test the CoreFive Labs Filemanager with GS 3.0 and with Beta as well

it works quite well. Only problem:
the filebrowser URL is hardcoded in edit.php as well as the ImagebrowserURL

Code:

filebrowserBrowseUrl : 'filebrowser.php?type=all',
filebrowserImageBrowseUrl : 'filebrowser.php?type=images',

so there is no option to define these options in the gsconfig.php

If you would set these options in condition, it would be very easy to integrate any filebrowser

Cheers, Connie

[ccagle8]

connie - i would rather develop for the existing filebrowser than make sure that the code allows for external ones. After everything is complete, we can see what we can do... but for now, I want our focus to be on improving the existing filebrowser

[Connie]

After everything is complete, we can see what we can do

ok, so let me know to test ;=)

Cheers, Connie

[gugu]

ok, so let me know to test

yes please tell us then we can try it

[ccagle8]

it wont be until after 3.1 is released. A 3.2 roadmap will be drawn up in the next couple of weeks, and this will be at the top of it.

[gugu]

sounds great ...