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QUESTION Newbie asking for tags and categories, posts
#1
Hello, 

i am ashamed to say so but I have been using GetSimple for many years as a simple way to blog or create information sites with pages. 

I have also been using Wordpress to create sites and I really love GetSimple for its simplicity. Yet, some of my needs are not met by the tool and I never asked this forum. 

I use today GetSimple like I would use Wordpres pages.

Is there a way to have blog posts with categories and tags ? 
Then, is it possible too to display category and tag pages ? 

Ex : I have article1 and article3 in category1.

Can I have something like http://www.mysite.com/category1 and this pages displays posts of this category. 
Same for tags.

I am sure this question has been asked a lot of times but I really love the simplicity of GetSimple and find Wordpress so slow. GetSimple is great in shared hosting services for instance too. 

I am thinking of using Wordpress as a generator tool (and also benefit from the templates) and then deploy static sites thanks to plug ins. But this solution is not the best too.

Hope, I will get some help or useful links.

Pablito
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#2
Hi,

The news/blog plugin from Carlos is what you need.
It is very good.

http://www.cyberiada.org/cnb/news-manager/

http://get-simple.info/extend/plugin/new...dated/541/
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#3
(2020-04-30, 23:23:50)Felix Wrote: Hi,

The news/blog plugin from Carlos is what you need.
It is very good.

http://www.cyberiada.org/cnb/news-manager/

http://get-simple.info/extend/plugin/new...dated/541/

Thanks, 
I will check. Do you know if there is the possibility to have a featured image on blog posts ?
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#4
(2020-04-30, 23:23:50)Felix Wrote: Hi,

The news/blog plugin from Carlos is what you need.
It is very good.

http://www.cyberiada.org/cnb/news-manager/

http://get-simple.info/extend/plugin/new...dated/541/

Maybe it was not the best idea but i tried it on a production new site. 

Now, the site is broken. How can I revert back to the former situation ?

Edit : I removed the folders of the plug in and the php file and it was back ok.
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#5
Quote:Maybe it was not the best idea but i tried it on a production new site.
Now, the site is broken. How can I revert back to the former situation ?
Edit : I removed the folders of the plug in and the php file and it was back ok.

Did you really risk your production site ? You didn't make a backup first ?
That is not the way how to work with production sites.
Install a fresh new GS setup and then try the News/Blog plugin.
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#6
(2020-05-01, 07:37:52)Felix Wrote:
Quote:Maybe it was not the best idea but i tried it on a production new site.
Now, the site is broken. How can I revert back to the former situation ?
Edit : I removed the folders of the plug in and the php file and it was back ok.

Did you really risk your production site ? You didn't make a backup first ?
That is not the way how to work with production sites.
Install a fresh new GS setup and then try the News/Blog plugin.

I was able to get back but why is it always so risky to try new plug ins ? 
Nevertheless, I managed to get back to normal and have been trying yesterday night to play on a local installation to see if I can do what I want. 

Globally, the plug-in is good and fulfill my needs. 
I might need to change a little the code inside to get what I want. 

One thing, it is absolutely necessary to change the canonical as precised here : 

SEO
- See function/template tag nm_post_title (since News Manager 2.3.x) to have a proper <title>
- Recommended:
(update) Since News Manager 3.5:
Edit your template(s) and change 
Code:
get_header

 to 
Code:
nm_get_header

 (or 
Code:
get_i18n_header

 to 
Code:
nm_get_i18n_header

 if you use mvlcek's *I18N* plugin). This way your posts, archives and tag pages will have proper canonical meta tags.
Before News Manager 3.5:
Change your template's 
Code:
<?php get_header(); ?>

 to:
Code:
<?php get_header(false); ?>

 - This way your site won't have the canonical meta tag (or else, because of the way GetSimple works, all posts have the same canonical URL, that of the news page)

I am working in SEO and I was terrified this feature is not built in.

You really have to master your seo to use this tool. 
That makes me feel sad actually.
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#7
Hi Pablito,

Carlos maintains this News/Blog plugin. He knows everything about it.
I am sure he will answer your questions. If I have time I will install it
my self and dive into it.
F.
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#8
I don't want to look mad, it is still a great job but some tuning and properties are not so easy to set (especially for seo).
Would be great if this plugin was integrated in future versions of GetSimple.

About my needs :

Problem 1 :

My example is i am working a on a website to learn different languages with classes.
Let's say french, italian, german, spanish. These would be my categories in wp.

I would use wordpress_tags for levels of classes : beginner, intermediate, advanced.

One post would be in a category with a tag like : german beginner.

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Now, in GS it is a little difficult as there are only tags.

Option 1 : same post will have german and beginner tags.
Then, when I will display categories in menu, i cannot use the built-in functions because typically I need my menu too look like :

Languages
* French
* German
* Italian
* Spanish

Levels
* Beginner
* Intermediate
* Advanced

So, I will need to have static menus. As long as I don't have 100 categories, it can be, why not.

Option 2 :
I was thinking to use Getsimple tags as wordpress categories.
For tags, I was thinking to use the getsimple search with the nm_search. Problem is that this method works with POST and not GET method. So I would need to copy it and change it.

Still thinking of what to do (and also canonical are important in SEO).

This is my first concern.


With Wordpress, I would typically use wp_categories and wp_tags.


Problem 2 :
SEO is important, to have visitors.

So, i have a page to present all my posts about the italian language.
something like https://www/mylanguageschool.com/languages/?tag=italian

It could be, but I would the elegant possibility to add some text on this page depending on the tag.

Text could be something like :

Why learn the italian language ? /*description for seo*/

/*List of posts with thetag italian*/

This is necessary for the SEO of this page.

Do you think I can do that quite cleanly ?

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My needs :
40 "wordpress" categories and 20 "wordpress" tags

for about 200 posts (1 category will have 5 posts in average, 1 post in 1 category and 1 post will have 0,1 or 2 wordpress tags).
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#9
Thanks@Felix for help.

I think there is everything I need in the thread concerning this product to set a solution for me.
Thanks again.
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#10
If someone reads this in future, i recommend using several plug ins :
DynPages (for php in page)
News Manager (updated)
News Manager Addons

Then you can do a lot of things :

for instance, I am able to create a page "how to learn latin languages"

<h1>how to learn latin languages</h1>

<p>information text</p>

<h2>french language</h2>
<p>information text</p>
<?php nm_list_recent_by_tag('french', 5); ?>

<h2>spanish language</h2>
<p>information text</p>
<?php nm_list_recent_by_tag('spanish', 7); ?>

<h2>italian language</h2>
<p>information text</p>
<?php nm_list_recent_by_tag('italian', 3); ?>

This is very flexible and very seo friendly.
I cannot do it with wordpress but with GS I can Wink (i am sure it is also possible with WP).
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#11
Hi Pablito,

Welcome to the GS cms and forum.

Yes I have been working with the DynPages plugin
and the News Manager. Both are powerful plugins.
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#12
(2020-05-02, 01:15:01)Felix Wrote: Hi Pablito,

Welcome to the GS cms and forum.

Yes I have been working with the DynPages plugin
and the News Manager. Both are powerful plugins.

Thanks Felix. 

If you are familiar with DynPages, can you maybe give me a clue about this : 
http://get-simple.info/forums/showthread...5#pid68605

Thanks in advance Smile

EDIT : problem solved Wink Maybe it can help somebody in future
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#13
Hi Pablito,

You can always check more about dynpages on the website of mvlcek:

http://mvlcek.bplaced.net/get-simple/dynpages
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