Quote:But we have no support in core for this stuff
That's where the shoe pinches. It makes little sense to build layers upon layers of shiny abstraction on a foundation that is outdated. In the long(er) run this should be implemented in the core. I'm giving lots of feedback like "this & that should" & don't actually contribute much in the way of code, but that's because I don't know PHP well enough to mod the core.. Is there anyone else actively maintaining core except you, shawn_a?